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An update on this, I believe the tips are in fact being deposited in the new paypal system which replaced the Commercial/Government card WAV /TIF payment system. It's confusing to verify because the deposits are not itemized.

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Spoke to at least one yellow cab driver who actually told us the TIF payments weren't even being made correctly. He also sent us a long email chain with the TLC, which actually acknowledged that some technical issues were occurring due to the PayPal switch. However, about a week ago he emailed us saying TLC was finally resolving the issue. What have you heard? Is the main app you are using Curb/Arro? When you get the grouped payment is it higher than what you would expect from just the standalone WAV / TIF payment is?

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Interesting thanks for the update. I haven't really heard anything. I'm just using the CMT T-PEP terminal. It comes up as an Uber offer. There are also Arro offers. If Curb still exists I believe it's only in the other credit payment system (not sure of the details) which is typically used by owner-operators. As far as the payments yes I now believe there is extra in there to account for tips. It's difficult to calculate because AFAIK Uber trips do not pay the $1/trip TIF if you're driving a WAV cab. You'd have to know the exact number of Uber/Yellow trips per day then reference it to the paypal payment period which seems to average once every two weeks. It would be very helpful if paypal deposits were itemized.

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Agree, hopefully they'll itemize it in the future! Did you email TLC about itemization? They might be able to help as well.

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Not yet but I should. I'm frankly hesitant to contact the TLC about anything. You know their upstairs neighbor in the Falchi building is Uber. I hear they do lunch sometimes. Our last TLC Commissioner Joshi seemed to be a big fan....

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Would contact them, at the end of the day they are funded by taxpayer money 👍

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Someone on the uberpeople board says he gets tip notifications on his phone but uses the terminal for trips. So I guess you have to be signed up with Uber to be notified.

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Thanks for the info! So on yellow cab e-hails on Curb / Arro, those apps don’t seem to be doing it, but Uber is. Hopefully, Curb / Arro will follow suit!

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Final follow up to this. After the Bank of America cards were converted to Paypal, CMT issued a new card where Uber tips and TLC WAV dispatch fees are deposited. Everything else goes to Paypal. Only found out by a chance conversation with another driver. You have to go to CMT in person in LIC.

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Thanks for your insight and follow through! Seems like an extremely quirky, one-off dynamic occurred, but definitely important to note.

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